Re: [dev] [st] goals / non-goals for st?

you are a compulsive replier, you haven't time to use a computer

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Uriel <lost.goblin_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:01 PM, frederic <fdubois76_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Example:
> >>>> http://xinutec.org/~pippijn/files/img/collection/why-transparency-is-evil.jpg
> >>>>
> >
> > So sugar is evil, because if one eats too much of it, one may die.
>
> And make the world a better place as a result.
>
>
> >>>> So, I agree with uriel: transparency is for idiots.
> >
> > Often, drunk people seem to believe that other people are drunk.
>
> And often idiots are just idiots.
>
>
> > Do yourself a favour: stop calling others idiots.
>
> Do yourself and the world a favour and go use Gnome, or even better OS X.
>
>
> >>> When I was young I thought hey that looks cool (compared to the usual
> >>> terminals on Windows by that time). But when actually using it for a
> >>> while it hurts more and the coolness factor becomes obsolete sooner
> >>> than later. Perhaps the younger generation has better eyes and can
> >>> cope with it for a couple of years, but I haven't seen any serious
> >>> programmer that worked with translucent terminals very long...
> >>>
> >
> > I think I'm not younger than you, and I have been working with translucent
> > terminals for about ten years on a daily basis.
>
> And now we have conclusive evidence that using translucent terminals
> for extended periods of time damages the brain!
>
> Thanks for sacrificing yourself as guinea pig for this essential and
> fascinating scientific research project.
>
>
> > I think the reason why I've been using them for so long is because I use
> > them more for the aesthetics than for the coolness factor.
> > Of course, my wallpaper doesn't show some lame anime character, insipid
> > landscape or kickass-y car.
>
> What have you got as wallpaper? A picture of your but?
>
>
> >>> Apart from that, all the other reasons (unnecessary complexity,
> >>> unnecessary cpu cycles, etc) are true and I agree.
> >>>
> >
> > I won't argue against that. Suckless software is nice, because it spares
> > some resources on my machine, so I can use translucent terminals :)
> >
> >>
> >> If you need the transparency, there are compositing window managers
> >> that will do perfect transparency for any application you would like
> >> to.
> >
> > Not exactly. Last time I tried, a compositing manager makes transparent
> > everything including writings, and performs true transparency. It is
> > significantly less comfortable than pseudo-transparency done by terminals
> > themselves. A comfortable translucent set up requires a accurate settings in
> > order to balance correctly eye-candy and easy reading.
>
> I know that many enjoy so much the mental-masturbatory process of
> configuring and "tuning" their desktops to death, but some of us
> managed to outgrow our pre-adolescent vices and actually use computers
> to get work done, hell, or even to have *actual* fun like watching
> films or perhaps playing games, instead of spending a lifetime
> pretending that the look of our work area is some kind of third rate
> kitsch 'art work'.
>
> Peace
>
> uriel
>

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