Re: [dev] [stali] Boot time (was: The stali way to wifi)

From: hiro <>
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:03:12 +0200

> If all I want to do is flip my laptop closed to go from the kitchen to
 the bedroom…

then your laptop should realize you're doing nothing and keep the CPU
in idle state anyway. you shouldn't need to tell it specifically,
especially for such a short time. shouldn't be worth it.

sane laptops will switch off the light when the lid is closed without
software intervention.

for longer periods, like a whole night, or going outside somewhere i
obviously regularly put my laptop to standby. and indeed echo mem to
/sys/power/state is enough for this.
the problem is that this requires special software support in all
kinds of drivers, which indicates that the hardware got designed in a
silly way. but commonly you either have to use some stupid
"workaround" in the driver or you are left with completely ignoring
the existence of this "standby" feature.

On 10/23/16, <> wrote:
>> On 10/21/16 11:48, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
>> > I've been arguing against MS Windows' misdesign to reboot the system
>> > on configuration changes. But from a stali perspective I kind of
>> > prefer rebooting the system for the prize of avoiding a daemon or
>> > runlevel management. It's simpler and it also makes you "configuring"
>> > a system less.
>> >
>> > "Configuring" is always an indicator of suckiness.
> If you're that worried about speed though (and you don't seem to be) or
> just want to skip crappy firmware, you could try to kexec, since you'll
> probably disagree with the reference implementation build system at
> least. But I suppose that that's a very low priority now, right?
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 12:19:52PM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
>> I totally agree. Same goes for suspend to RAM in my opinion.
> They're not comparable when you've got quite a bit of work going on.
> There are likely enough “edge cases” to that thinking. And besides, how
> hard is it to just echo mem to /sys/power/state? Who said suckless use
> cases need userspace support? I'd leave that in the kernel at least,
> because it's not an unlikely use case, though I already build my own
> kernels with lots of the junk stripped anyway…
> If all I want to do is flip my laptop closed to go from the kitchen to
> the bedroom…
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