Re: [dev] Ada not Rust

From: Mattias Andrée <maandree_AT_kth.se>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 20:39:14 +0200

On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:10:20 -0400
Ross Mohn <rpmohn_AT_waxandwane.org> wrote:

> On 4/23/21 10:12 PM, Jeremy wrote:
> > On 04/20/21 10:23AM, Greg Reagle wrote:
> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021, at 09:45, Jeremy wrote:
> >> I gave up on using dvtm a while ago (now I use tmux which is good) because it
> >> would keep crashing. And I could not figure out how to debug the crashes or get
> >> specific information about the cause of the crashes. If I had known about these
> >> options then I would have compiled dvtm with them and maybe gave better bug
> >> reports. (Though I know C, I am not an expert in C.)
> > I know what you're talking about & it's a pain in the ass. I believe
> > this is due to the ANSI parser implementation(vt.c) that DVTM uses.
> >
> > I wrote a library, libst(a fork of st), and modified st, dvtm to link against it:
> > https://github.com/jeremybobbin/libst
> >
> > Try compiling & installing libst, then compile & run dvtm in libst/examples.
> >
> > As much as I love dvtm, I believe it's a captive user interface, and
> > lacks the extensibility that a terminal multiplexer could/should provide.
> >
> > Attempting to address this, I wrote, what I believe to be, a suckless
> > approach to terminal multiplexing - svtm:
> > https://github.com/jeremybobbin/svtm
> >
> > svtm is a composition of primarily 4 programs:
> > - abduco - {at,de}tach
> > - svt - TTY state/dumping/scrolling
> > - bmac - byte-for-byte macros
> > - itty - lets you run TTY input through a filter(such as bmac)
> >
> > I'd like to add a "paner" program to that list, but for now, the above
> > is all you need to express any terminal-oriented workflow in a UNIX
> > environment.
> >
> > I'm curious as to what y'all think.
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> I and my entire team have been actively and successfully using dvtm for
> years. I haven't had it crash in a long while now, and I regularly keep
> sessions alive for months. However, I am very interested in using
> something as you describe above, with a library version of st that is
> kept up-to-date. I didn't get your svtm to work out-of-the-box, but I
> will continue to debug it myself. I got all the programs to compile
> fine, but did go into each Makefile and, where necessary, added the '?'
> character to this line "PREFIX ?= /usr/local".

Why do you need `?=`. The only difference between `=` and `?=`?

Apart from `=` beginning the only assignment operator defined by POSIX,
is that `?=` has no effect if the variable is already defined wheras
`=` does not have any effect if the variable is set in the command line.

>
> -Ross
>
>
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