Re: [dev] dwm default bindings

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Jimmy Tang<jtang_AT_tchpc.tcd.ie> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 08:07:42PM -0400, Donald Allen wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Donald Chai<donald.chai_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Jul 22, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Donald Allen wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael<misha_AT_netspark.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Donald Allen wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I realize that these bindings can be changed. But that requires some
>> >>>> work (and knowledge of C) on the part of the user. I'm talking about
>> >>>> the choice of the defaults. Perhaps the keys modified by alt should
>> >>>> instead be modified by ctrl-alt by default? And similarly, alt-shift
>> >>>> -> ctrl-alt-shift? I am going to test this idea by modifying my setup.
>> >>>> I'll let you know how it works out.
>> >>>
>> >>> ctrl-alt, alt-shift, ctrl-shift non-english speaking people usually use
>> >>> those keys for layout change, win-key is perfect solution, but not all
>> >>> keyboards have those.
>> >>> there is no default keys to satisfy even majority, i think, so why
>> >>> bother, if majority will have to edit those keys anyway.
>> >>
>> >> I don't buy that argument. Why not pick the set of defaults that
>> >> satisfies the largest minority?
>> >
>> > It *is* the set of defaults that satisfies the majority.
>>
>> You are responding to something I didn't say. Read again.
>>
>>   I think many
>> > people change the setting to Mod2Mask to use the Windows key, but the
>> > current default of Mod1Mask will work out of the box for anyone who doesn't
>> > have a Windows/Apple/diamond key.
>>
>> That's true. But it also conflicts with a widely-available UI
>> convention, alt-based keyboard accelerators. And there are other
>> possible defaults that use only ctrl and alt that don't exhibit this
>> conflict.
>>
>
> at the risk of being patronising, why not just buy a cheap keyboard for
> 10euro/usd or whatever? surely it can not be that difficult to find an
> old and cheap keyboard for your machine which does not have the extra
> key on your current keyboard?

Presumably you meant "does" above, instead of "does not"? You need to
check your keyboard :-)

Kidding aside, I'm a fast typist, spend a lot of time at the computer
and I care a lot about the feel of my keyboard. I have never found
anything that was as satisfactory (and I've tried) as IBM's classic
keyboards, of which I have two. They don't have the Windows key, so I
have to deal with this problem with the pair of ctrl and alt keys. I
have made a change, described in a previous message, that works well
for me.

/Don

>
>> >
>> > If the only modifier keys on your keyboard are CTRL and ALT, I suggest
>> > mapping one ALT key to Mod1 and the other to Mod2.  I've noticed that I
>> > rarely use the modifier keys on the right-hand side anyway...
>>
>> Good idea.
>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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