Re: [dev] [surf] next release

From: Anselm R Garbe <>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:18:12 +0100

2009/10/22 Charlie Kester <>:
> On Thu 22 Oct 2009 at 05:20:44 PDT Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
>> what consitutes a "session" ? it's something that is maintained
>> serverside and the only way to "stay in it" is usually one or more of:
>> - keeping and sending cookie data
>> - keeping the same ip (and maybe user agent)
>> - requesting the urls they tell you to
>> afaik both curl and wget can use existing cookie storages on your hard
>> disk (and can use the useragent you tell them to), so don't really see
>> the problem.
> It seems to me that the problems being discussed in this subthread arise
> because the "browser" combines two very distinct concerns:
> - managing the http traffic to and from the website, which includes the
>  administrative details pertaining to the session
> - rendering the documents obtained from the website
> Perhaps we should be thinking about separating them?

I'm not against providing a nice integration of external tools like
wget into surf, however I have seen downloads that were triggered by
some JavaScript and making that work with an external tool sounds like
a challenge (unless you don't hack into webkit's resource handler
layer). That's why I think having both (built-in default) and
possibility for seamless integration of external tool would be best.
I'd go that far to keep external tool integration that simple to avoid
dealing with session propagation.

Kind regards,
Received on Thu Oct 22 2009 - 16:18:12 UTC

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