Re: [dev] Interesting post about X11

From: Kurt H Maier <>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:00:41 -0400

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Donald Allen <> wrote:
> But dbus is out of your control. If you need it, you need to accept
> how it behaves. We're talking about code *you* control.

dbus is most certainly in my control. I can remove it, and then I
lose functionality, or I can replace it with something simpler, which
I have endeavored to do.

> I think you've digressed into the realm of well-architected code that
> is as simple and lean as it can be, when were talking about
> programming languages originally. I think the suckless philosophy is
> about the former, not the latter. And I heartily agree with it. I run
> Slackware and dwm. No Windows, no Mac, no gnome, no kde, no xfce. No
> Ubuntu. I want what I need and nothing more.

That describes my systems as well; slackware and dwm. But I do
maintain that choosing the wrong programming language -- specifically,
choosing an interpreted or vm-based language -- can lead to crappy
programs no matter how clean and well-designed the application itself
may be.

> I think a desire for simplicity and good architecture is orthogonal to
> the language you implement a good (or bad) architecture in.

That depends in large part on whether the language itself embodies
simplicity and good architecture (again, especially when the language
in question relies on a non-native bytecode interpreter).

# Kurt H Maier
Received on Wed Jun 23 2010 - 02:00:41 UTC

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