[dev] Re: I'm back

From: Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen_AT_gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:04:27 +0100

Anselm R Garbe <garbeam_AT_gmail.com> writes:

> On 18 November 2012 07:00, Jens Staal <staal1978_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
>> lördagen den 17 november 2012 14.50.23 skrev Kurt H Maier:
>>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:20:03PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
>>> > sta.li
>>> > ------
>>> > To me archlinux was a good distro until a couple of years ago.
>>> > Nowadays it seems to be very en vogue and thus has degraded quite
>>> > significantly in terms of simplicity. I'm not aware of any distro that
>>> > would come close to the radical goals of stali, thus this is the real
>>> > effort suckless.org must work on. I believe that the Android core as
>>> > a base system is the best platform to base sta.li on.
>>> crux linux might have some useful approaches. I don't understand the
>>> decision to use android crap like bionic when musl has come so far so
>>> quickly.
>> I agree with this. As an example distribution, Sabotage does things pretty
>> well. One detail that I like a lot (but it sort of depends on your stance on
>> symlinks) is the way applications usually are placed in it:
> I'm suggesting the Android core as this the environment I'm quite
> familiar with. I'll investigate if linux+musl would be a better fit,
> as I'm not totally tight to the Android core. But judging from the
> fact that Android is already on >500 million devices I would say that
> its core is quite well tested. And obviously it comes without the
> systemd dependency.

Note that the workload of a Linux distribution running a Java VM is
probably rather different from a power-user using the system natively.

Especially, bionic only implements what Google needs (and *how*) and not
a fully compatible POSIX API. Have a look at musl, its very sane,
compact code and conformant.

>> Each application gets its own directory under /opt and then installed files
>> get symlinks in / (the file system hierarchy is stali-inspired with everything
>> in root and usr just pointing back to root).
> I'll talk to Christian at the next Stammtisch to refresh my knowledge
> about sabotage ;)

There are probably more sabotage forks than users by now. :) I don't
know which ones does the symlink-stuff, but I can also tell you about my
ideas then.

> Best regards,
> Anselm
Christian Neukirchen  <chneukirchen_AT_gmail.com>  http://chneukirchen.org
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