Re: [dev] [GENERAL] License manifest

From: Christoph Lohmann <>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 22:02:57 +0200


On Mon, 12 May 2014 22:02:57 +0200 "Anthony J. Bentley" <> wrote:
> Christoph Lohmann writes:
> > On Mon, 12 May 2014 18:18:37 +0200 FRIGN <> wrote:
> > > Well, let's take a look at the GPL first: It's a strict free software
> > > license, which means that it doesn't permit incorporating or even
> > > linking a GPL-software without publishing the software itself under a
> > > free software license and/or ship the software with the source-code
> > > used.
> > > We at suckless agreed that there should be the freedom for everyone to
> > > use the software in proprietary software as well.
> > > That's why the GPL is often considered harmful, as it inhibits the free
> > > flow of knowledge and often leads to complete rewrites of software,
> > > just because the authors are pissed off by it.
> Not just people who dislike it. Even GPL lovers have to rewrite their
> software due to the GPL.
> Example: LibreCAD, a fork of QCad, which had been relicensed by the
> authoring company under the GPLv2. LibreCAD wanted to support AutoCAD's
> DWG file format. Unluckily for them, LibreDWG (a FSF project) is licensed
> GPLv3+, and the FSF refused to relicense. The GPL made the code so free
> they couldn't use it.

At least this allows a viral spreading of the license. It could be the
major factor for its survival strategy.

> > And, as OpenSSL shows, corporate assholes never really give back.
> > With the GPL you at least get their crown jewels, if they piss you off.
> Yeah, ask Landley how much useful code Busybox got out of all those lawsuits.
> Corporations are terrible at writing code. We don't want their garbage.

It’s not about the corporate garbage code, but to have the hardware
specs in the code and a way to build a new firmware for that hardware.
Yes, many releases of the Open Source code for various hardware requires
much work to be usable.


Christoph Lohmann
Received on Mon May 12 2014 - 22:02:57 CEST

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