Re: [dev] Never Ending Systemd Chronicles

From: FRIGN <>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 11:58:25 +0200

On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 11:52:52 +0200
Kamil CholewiƄski <> wrote:

Hey Kamil,

> I don't think we need more systemd hate - people are already in one
> camp or another. We do need a single, solid, real world, battle-proven
> solution, to propose as a viable alternative for distros to implement.

it's not hate, it's valid criticism.

> Systemd does solve two things: 1. it's now universally available
> across all major distros, and 2. it has a stable set of basic
> interfaces (unit files, commands).

It's an euphemistic way to describe a monoculture. systemd eats into
your system and forces itself onto you with all its interfaces.
A few years ago, it didn't matter which init system you had, now it
goes so far that you can't run certain GUI applications without having
this cancerous leech in your system.

> No, runit is not the answer, it's only a building block.

Of course, runit is only a service manager. But runit+sinit+misc is a
whole other story.



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