Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

From: Edward Willis <>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 08:36:54 -0700

Hello. I am new also to this mailing list, although I have read and for a long time.

I agree with Sagar. Simple software allows for people to use their computers for longer, which saves on waste, saves money, and is more inclusive of users who don’t have the latest and greatest technology. Libraries and other public institutions that provide computer access are especially hard pressed to keep up with increasing hardware requirements.


PS: As this is my first message on this list please inform me if I am doing anything wrong in the formatting or sending of this message.

> On Apr 9, 2021, at 6:18 AM, Laslo Hunhold <> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 14:54:31 +0200 (CEST)
> Sagar Acharya <> wrote:
> Dear Sagar,
>> I recently wrote this article
>> being absolutely unaware about suckless and this was brought to my
>> attention.
> interesting article!
>> Suckless's philosophy is hands down amazing and crucial wrt computer
>> security. Although I'd like to point out 1 aspect. Why does suckless
>> target very sophisticated users? If it shuns trying to go after
>> elitist users, it can improve computer security of people all around
>> the world and also themselves, since if others are secure, you
>> yourself will become even more secure!
>> For it, there would be few requirements. Free software, minimal, easy
>> to use, beautiful to look at (by default). I guess the latter 2 are
>> lagging a bit.
> I understand your point completely and it has been part of many debates
> in the last few years. I used to be more open towards "more
> user-friendliness" a few years ago, but realized that if you look at
> modern users, most of them are unwilling to invest time and effort into
> getting something to work and expect too much from others in terms of
> support and guidance.
> Initiatives to "open up" such things are noble in their motivations,
> but actually make things worse.
> You can build software with the goal of user-friendliness in mind, but
> this always comes with concessions. As long as you provide consistent
> and easy to understand user-interfaces (APIs, Synopses, etc.), it is, I
> think, the user's turn to try to understand them to the fullest, even
> if it means learning a bit of a programming language.
> How do the others see it?
> With best regards
> Laslo
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