Re: [dev] Update outdated suckless website

From: Germain Bossu <>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 21:09:17 +0200

Le Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:15:47 +0800,
Wait let me check: it's not April Fool's day

"Martin Tournoij" <> a écrit :

> Hello,
> I think the suckless website could do with some updating. I think
> suckless has potential, but people are turned off by the old website.
> Using a more modern website built with a modern framework like React
> or VueJS could probably solve a lot of its problems.
> Some of the problems:
> 1. I am able to find most information by using the clearly labelled
> menu items. This is very boring! A good website makes users search
> for the content they want, this is more fun and drives engagement.
> 2. I am unable to find a mobile app for either iOS or Android? Is
> there a suckless mobile app? You really can't afford to NOT have a
> mobile app these days.
> 3. Because the website is written in plain language with relevant and
> useful content the SEO score is very low. You can add some more
> critical keywords as a quick fix, but personally I would recommend
> some larger changes, such as renaming "software that sucks less" to
> "Is it true that software can suck less? We compiled 7 reasons why it
> could!"
> Other content that could be added are blog posts, for example "How
> suckless' minimalism can help your relationship with your dog", or
> "Six different ways suckless can get you laid", "Why Linus Torvalds
> says he HATES suckless", "Does using suckless mean you're a beta
> cuck?", etc. The most important part is a title that will either 1)
> confirm people's preconceived notions, or 2) outrage people. Most
> people don't read the article so that's not very important, as long
> as it uses many keywords. It's also important to post this on at
> least 46 subreddits, Hacker News,, etc. Don't worry if it
> may be on-topic or not, with some luck it will slip past the
> moderation because your incendiary title will drive engagement. You
> can always create a new account if you get banned.
> 4. currently has a score of 100 on Google PageSpeed.
> This is far too high. The homepage loads in about 200ms for me, far
> too fast too. Slower load times increases frustration of users, and
> more emotional users drive greater engagement.
> 5. It doesn't ask to send me notifications at all. As a user, I feel
> undervalued and ignored. Please, ask for notifications and send me
> a notification every time something important happens, such as mailing
> list posts, or other important events such as a suckless developer
> breaking wind. I absolutely need to know about this without any
> delay.
> 6. The page is not standards-compliant: it only uses about 9% of my
> CPU during the initial load and 0% after this. This is not in
> accordance with modern web standards. It's important to be
> standards-compliant. It's really stuck in the IE6 days in this regard!
> 7. It's not made with 💖. This breaks my 🫀. Do you not love me? I
> think this is very rude.
> 8. I am not distracted by fun and interesting advertisements. If I do
> not see an advertisement about Coca Cola, Swatch, Wix, etc. every 5
> to 10 minutes then I might forget about them, and that would be
> terrible!!
> 9. There are no social media features, and I can't 👍 or 💖 anything.
> I also can't post it to my Facebook. I would really like to share it
> with my anti-vaccination group on Facebook but now it's very hard :-(
> 10. The website is only in English; I expected the page to be
> automatically translated to Indonesian as I'm accessing it from
> Indonesia. Respecting the user's preferences from the
> Accept-Language header is also not in accordance with modern web
> standards.
> 11. The suckless website is open source and I cloned the git repo,
> but I couldn't find any way to run it with systemd. Is this possible?
> I wanted to try and make it better, but it's very hard for new
> contributors if your website doesn't run on systemd. I also tried
> adding it to my k8s cluster, but that didn't work either :-/
> As you can see, these are all very real problems. I think suckless
> will never be popular without a good modern website. I could add some
> more, but I think we can start by working on these problems.
> There are many modern frameworks but you should really use React in my
> opinion. It is amazing. I do everything with React; I became a
> millionaire by mining Bitcoins with React, I cook my food with React
> (React curry with chickpeas is about as amazing as [12]+3 resulting
> in the string "123"!), and wow, the response from the women when I
> say I use React!! It's the easiest Tinder opening line ever. My cat
> loves React too.
> I hope you find all these tips useful!
> Thank You,
> Martin
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