Re: [dwm] EWMH code would enable some code cuts

On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 07:57:44AM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote:
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Anselm R. Garbe <arg_AT_suckless.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:14:10AM +0200, Henrik Holst wrote:
> > > I think an implementation of EWMH would make it possible to remove the
> > > dwm panel (the one that reads stdin and displays it) from dwm code base.
> > >
> > > In that way dwm would be smaller (or maybe just break even) and more
> > > symmetric with how dmenu is fitted to the equation today. It would also
> > > allowe the user to choose whatever kind of "panel" he or she wants. That
> > > is an escape and dpanel (or some other name maybe) would not have to be
> > > counted in the ridicules 2 kloc limit. :P
> > >
> > > But seriously, EWMH support with struts and all, should be on the top of
> > > the list for dwm. EWMH is too important to be left to forks.
> > >
> > > Something for 5.0?
> >
> > EWMH is evil. I see reasons for people arguing to get rid of the
> > status text processing code in dwm, but the tagging approach is
> > a too integral part of dwm which heavily depends on the bar.
> >
> > Thus there is no way to get rid of the bar. The overhead
> > introduced by EWMH and a EWMH-driven bar for the tagging concept
> > would make the code base much more complex.
> >
> > Currently I'm at a stage to reconsider features for removal
> > again. Esp. DEFGEOM seems to have a lot of potential for
> > simplification(s).
>
> +1 on status text processing removal (it just eats cycles
> and makes life harder while trying to concentrate on
> real work)
>
> +1 on keeping a possibility to have the tags part of the bar
> for people who need it
>
> +1 on keeping a way to add a status bar somehow without having
> it in dwm but I'm not sure how that would be combined with the
> tags support.
>
> As there are presumably Xmonad devs/users lurking here
> I'm curious how the tags part in
> http://haskell.org/sitewiki/images/b/b2/Byorgey-config.png
> is accomplished. is it dzen or xmobar which has a way to
> talk to Xmonad?
>
> _it might be remove status bar functionality and add a way
> to achieve it optionally than to let it be as it is right
> now depending on how it would be achieved_

For those who are basically interested in using dzen as status
processor I could consider to disable the status text processing
of dwm as a compile time switch.

Kind regards,

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