Re: [wmii] Re: quick thanks... for wmii

From: Uriel <>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:06:35 +0100

The only editor that replaced ed for Ken (and for tom duff, BWK and
other demigods; and ironically even for Bjarne Stroustrup) is sam,
which is basically a fancy version of the ed language plugged into a
blit(ie., rio) terminal.

But I'm sure he still uses ed and cat to write code from time to time,
I know I do, and I'm no demigod.

Vim is shit, get over it.


P.S.: BTW, all the functionality you complain about missing in ed is
available if you just run ed inside at rio terminal. If your terminal
sucks ass don't blame your text editor.

On 1/19/07, Sander van Dijk <> wrote:
> Good morning,
> On 1/18/07, Uriel <> wrote:
> > If you have trouble finding the right regular expression, then you
> > should not be writing code.
> It's not about having trouble to find the right regular expression,
> it's about believing that it's not the best way to do _all_ text
> editing. Regular expressions are a strong tool, but aren't the best
> solution in all cases (Powerdrills are useful tools too, but not for
> putting a nail in a piece of wood). Sometimes I just want to be able
> to say "change _this_ specific piece of text", rather than "find a
> place where this word appears in such and such a context, and change
> it to this". Take the line "aap noot aap mies aap mus aap pim", and
> say I want to change the third occurence of "aap" with "boom"; Sure,
> that's possible with an RE, but I'd rather just point at the word and
> change it. Vim makes this possible with its cursor position (and,
> surprise surprise, your beloved Sam and Acme allow such things too;
> why oh why would that be?).
> > But in the end it all comes down to thinking before you type, ken
> Of course.
> > wrote Unix with cat (1) and ed(1), if you can find anyone that is even
> > 1% as productive and uses vim, it will be a miracle and I will start
> > to believe in a God other than Glenda.
> No doubt, but we weren't talking about Ken's productivity, we were
> talking about whether certain editors increase your productivity in
> general. Taking a demigod as an example for the general case isn't
> much of an argument (it's sort of like saying "Smoking isn't bad for
> you! Take a look at my friends uncle, he smoked a pack of cigarettes
> every day ever since he was twelve, now he's ninety and still alive
> and kicking!" (except my friends uncle isn't a demigod)).
> Besides, I think the fact that Ken wrote Unix with cat and ed is also
> influenced by the time it was written in (and what was and wasn't
> available at that time). Does Ken still do mayor coding with ed and or
> cat?
> Greetings, Sander.
Received on Fri Jan 19 2007 - 09:06:35 UTC

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