Re: Re: Re: [dev] Fwd: OT:GUI wireless connections management?

From: Uriel <>
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 18:09:02 +0200

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Kris Maglione <> wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:36:44AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Kris Maglione <>
>> wrote:
>>> You could always try FreeBSD. They've had UTF-8 support since version 5.
>>> The
>>> ifconfig isn't quite as good as OpenBSD's, though. It doesn't handle WPA
>>> internally (but, then, given OpenBSD's focus on crypto, it's not
>>> surprising
>>> that its does where others' don't).
>> FreeBSD doesn't support UTF-8 in the console.  It only does UTF-8 in X11.
> Well, the point is that it does UTF-8 in libc, which is always the real
> issue.

Uh! No, libc has the wchar abomination, which should *never* be used.

The issue is having decent tools to work with text that support UTF-8
clearly and efficiently, and Plan 9 from User Space provides by far
the best solution for this, even on Linux.


> X11 really has nothing to do with it. Frankly, the syscons has always
> been a bit crufty. I've never even been able to get it to do any mode other
> than 24x80. On the other hand, it has better mouse support than most
> consoles, so...
> --
> Kris Maglione
> Nations have recently been led to borrow billions for war; no nation
> has ever borrowed largely for education.  Probably, no nation is rich
> enough to pay for both war and civilization.  We must make our choice;
> we cannot have both.
>        --Abraham Flexner
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