Re: [dev] [9buntu] first attempt -bashing needed

From: Jens Staal <>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:10:15 +0200

Yeah... along the way I have sort of figured that stuff ARE very complex
(for example, PATH seems to be set and re-set several times during init and
login and some environment variables seem very resistant to "sticking",
which probably means that there is a later event that I have yet to

Basically, the only reason I went with a *buntu minimal debootstrap was
Anselm's idea of a "9buntu" that I came across in some mailing list archive
on the web.... and there are probably tons of people out there that find it
good just because it is a "*buntu" and are willing to try it :). As I
mentioned in the earlier message

The weird Bash dependency during boot annoys me though... as far as I could
see everything was geared towards /bin/sh, which should = dash.
I found another interesting debian-type in emdebian "grab", which should be
busybox-based... might make things simpler if the whole GNU stuff has
already been cleaned out once (and since I am on a sidux box, I think I am
more inclined to try to mess with that family...).

2010/7/30 Troels Henriksen <>

> Kris Maglione <> writes:
> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 09:09:08AM +0200, Jens Staal wrote:
> >>Hi all.
> >>
> >>While waiting for to be finnished, I started playing around with a
> >>custom ubuntu build that uses plan9port as default user interface on as
> many
> >>levels possible (inspired by some e-mails from Anselm that were lying
> around
> >>on the web). I am basically a total layman on this and I have sort of
> leant
> >>as I went along when I built this... so there are probably a few
> completely
> >>useless configuration setting changes made.
> >
> > I'm more than a little surprised that you'd start with such an
> > overgrown, hulking Goliath of a system such as Ubuntu. I think it says
> > enough that it has aptitude, apt-get, apt-cache, dpkg, dpkg-*,
> > dselect, debhelper, and devscripts, just to make a start. Then you
> > have such abominations as Sys-V init to contend with, and the maze of
> > tangled configuration schemes. I would have started with a simpler
> > system like Arch or GoboLinux, or even a BSD. Or if I were feeling a
> > bit sadistic, Gentoo, Source Mage, or Slackware. Debian, though... I'm
> > not that sadistic.
> Why not Linux from Scratch? Or even Glendix...
> (Slackware is probably the best realistic bet, due to the simplicity.)
> --
> \ Troels
> /\ Henriksen
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