Re: [dev] suckless distro

From: Sylvain BERTRAND <>
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:21:29 +0200

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 05:16:34PM +0200, FRIGN wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:03:28 +0200
> Sylvain BERTRAND <> wrote:
>> This is where we disagree. You draw the line there: acceptance of
>> the technical cost of make in your SDKs whatever the size.
>> I guess, I draw the line somewhere else, damned!
> Says the guy who puts
> #This is a brutal makefile... but extremely easy to read as it is actually
> #very basic makefile logic.
> on top of a 450 LOC makefile[0]. Dr. Frankenstein would be impressed!


Why are you talking about the size of one of my makefile? Could
you not understand that the topic is "the use of make in SDKs"
not "how to actually write a makefile"? You disappoint me to
think that the people here won't make the difference (I bet most
detected your trick).

Anyway, let's change of topic, since you want to do it.
Let's be in the context of writting a makefile, namely in the
context of SDK where full build time is annoying in the coding
cycle, then we need makefiles to cherry pick what is to be

(I don't believe it... I'm feeding that obvious troll/bot :) )


This is another point: it is way more suckless to write more but
simpler code than writing less but very complex code. It is valid
for makefiles too! (the obvious example is C/c++).

In the context of a makefile, I prefer writing totally stupid
makefiles, very easy to read, namely verbose, than one that
will for sure make me pull the make documentation to understand
what I did 6 months before :)

Then if you look that makefile, it's a totally stupid one, ultra
easy to read. No crazy targets/rules (damned! what is $& already!
:) )
This is by design, you, LOC fanatic ;)

>> Install windows and visual studio then. Subscribe to msdn. That
>> argument is invalid. Don't accept "common" practice blindly like
>> a "fanatic" :).
> I'm talking about common practice in the scope of suckless software
> development, not in the sense of software development in general.
> If you really believed in GNU/Freedom(R), you would never even talk
> about Microsoft. You've been unmasked!

For your information, I genuily hate
microsoft/oracle/apple/sap... from all my heart. I despize them.
For me, they don't register higher than cokroaches. They generate
sooooooo much hate!

That said, that part was dealing with "common practice"... you
dismissed that topic completely... pfff! unfair! You slave of
some "common" practice! ;)

>> Then, you'll think I'm stupid, and I'll think you are stupid.
>> Welcome in the human world.
> With the difference that I'm not the only one here who thinks your
> makefile-concept is stupid.

This is not stupid. It's just putting reasonably the line
somewhere else to be friendler to the suckless philosophy.

Received on Wed Jun 25 2014 - 18:21:29 CEST

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