Re: [dev] Completeness suckless

From: Laslo Hunhold <>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:18:23 +0200

On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 14:54:31 +0200 (CEST)
Sagar Acharya <> wrote:

Dear Sagar,

> I recently wrote this article
> being absolutely unaware about suckless and this was brought to my
> attention.

interesting article!
> Suckless's philosophy is hands down amazing and crucial wrt computer
> security. Although I'd like to point out 1 aspect. Why does suckless
> target very sophisticated users? If it shuns trying to go after
> elitist users, it can improve computer security of people all around
> the world and also themselves, since if others are secure, you
> yourself will become even more secure!
> For it, there would be few requirements. Free software, minimal, easy
> to use, beautiful to look at (by default). I guess the latter 2 are
> lagging a bit.

I understand your point completely and it has been part of many debates
in the last few years. I used to be more open towards "more
user-friendliness" a few years ago, but realized that if you look at
modern users, most of them are unwilling to invest time and effort into
getting something to work and expect too much from others in terms of
support and guidance.
Initiatives to "open up" such things are noble in their motivations,
but actually make things worse.

You can build software with the goal of user-friendliness in mind, but
this always comes with concessions. As long as you provide consistent
and easy to understand user-interfaces (APIs, Synopses, etc.), it is, I
think, the user's turn to try to understand them to the fullest, even
if it means learning a bit of a programming language.

How do the others see it?

With best regards

Received on Fri Apr 09 2021 - 15:18:23 CEST

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