Re: [dwm] [ Messages from to you have been bouncing]

From: Joerg van den Hoff <>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 11:50:18 +0100

On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 09:17:26PM -0700, Neale Pickett wrote:
> Premysl Hruby <> writes:
> > I had saved one bounce message mlmmj received from your MX, and it
> > looks like your MX is acting very strangely (bounce message attached
> > to this email).

thanks for looking into this.

> Wow, his MTA (or maybe MUA) is sending out a delivery status
> notification, saying that the message was delivered. I didn't think any
> MTAs actually did that, it can create many problems (like the current
> one).
> Joerg, you should check your mail client to see if it's sending out
> delivery status notifications (DSNs). What's happening is that your
> mail client, or your mail server, is responding back to the message

I presume, it's our IMAP server in central IT. I'll forward your message.

I'm using `mutt' (which at least
claims to suck less than other mail clients) and AFAICS should have
nothing to do with the delivery notification, right?

> saying "I got it!" mlmmj (the list software used at, which
> I happen to have contributed to) treats any response to the envelope
> sender address as a bounced message.

naive question: would it harm if mlmmj would treat the DSN has
harmless/irrelevant instead of 'bounced'?

> I'm guessing there's some sender on the list who requests delivery
> status notifications on their outbound messages, and this is why you
> only see the bounces occasionally.

I start to get the picture.

> I'll refrain from expounding on my opinion of DSNs. Check the Internet
> if you're curious.

I always am.

thanks again,

Received on Sat Mar 07 2009 - 10:50:18 UTC

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