Re: [dev] dwm only?

From: Benjamin Conner <tommydabomby_AT_gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:41:28 -0400

>
> > I wasn't trying to correct anything. I was suggesting the creation of a
> > new topic with an obvious name so that if the list owners weren't
> > following this topic the new name would catch their attention.
>
Ok, that makes sense.

> > I completely agree. Mixing the two lists has definitely flared some
> > tempers and I would definitely be open to the idea of splitting them
> > into 3 lists (dwm, wmii, dev or something like that).

Yes. That's what I'd want to do too.

> What was wrong with the pre-dev approach?

It was good, but the Dwm wasn't very "dwm". It was more of a suckless
general list kinda. I think the dev list should stay, but the dwm and wmii
ones should too.
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM, pmarin <pacogeek_AT_gmail.com> wrote:

> What was wrong with the pre-dev approach?
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Thomas Gallen <kaori.hinata_AT_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Seriously people, can't you just listen to it and not correct it? I
> hate
> >> when people do that in real life too.
> >
> > I wasn't trying to correct anything. I was suggesting the creation of a
> > new topic with an obvious name so that if the list owners weren't
> > following this topic the new name would catch their attention.
> >
> >> I am totally for getting the old dwm
> >> list back. Why not just have a dev list then a dwm list. I know the
> dwm
> >> list was mainly the "dwv" list but why not change that? Have this list
> for
> >> kindof "off topic" or whatever, and have the dwm lists for dwm stuff.
> Why
> >> is there a problem with that?
> >
> > I completely agree. Mixing the two lists has definitely flared some
> > tempers and I would definitely be open to the idea of splitting them
> > into 3 lists (dwm, wmii, dev or something like that).
> >
> > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 01:04:20PM -0400, Benjamin Conner wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > Sorry but you are not right, not to mention rude response. Dwm
> list
> >> > > > has plenty of _interesting_ topics related to dwm or any other
> >> > > > minimal suckless project. It is fantastic way to get informed
> about
> >> > > > other minimal projects and better ways to do something. Wmii is
> >> > > > bloatware for me or at least topic that has nothing common with
> >> > > > dwm. Correct me if I am wrong. As much as I am thrilled to read
> >> > > > about what is the best way to describe shortcut in wmii manual, I
> >> > > > should not be forced to read that except if I choose to do so.
> Same
> >> > > > as would make no sense to mix dwm and gnome mailing lists make no
> >> > > > sense to mix dwm and wmii mailing lists.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dusan
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> I have to agree with this whole email. Very well said.
> >>
> >> Did I missed something?!
> >> >
> >> > 'dwm only?' subject is about splitting lists or getting things
> >> > reverted or whatever you call it, I am not that informed about mailing
> >> > list options and that's best I could do to define what I would like to
> >> > see. If there is better way to phrase what I already stated and better
> >> > address than creating new subject on mailing list please be my guest
> to
> >> > do that -- English is not my primary language.
> >>
> >> Seriously people, can't you just listen to it and not correct it? I
> hate
> >> when people do that in real life too. I am totally for getting the old
> dwm
> >> list back. Why not just have a dev list then a dwm list. I know the
> dwm
> >> list was mainly the "dwv" list but why not change that? Have this list
> for
> >> kindof "off topic" or whatever, and have the dwm lists for dwm stuff.
> Why
> >> is there a problem with that?
> >> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Dusan <ef_dva_AT_yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Did I missed something?!
> >> >
> >> > 'dwm only?' subject is about splitting lists or getting things
> >> > reverted or whatever you call it, I am not that informed about mailing
> >> > list options and that's best I could do to define what I would like to
> >> > see. If there is better way to phrase what I already stated and better
> >> > address than creating new subject on mailing list please be my guest
> to
> >> > do that -- English is not my primary language.
> >> >
> >> > My view on wmii is exactly the same as wmii user can see dwm, as
> >> > something too strange and out of interest. I do respect wmii but don't
> >> > care about it and you also agreed that 'wmii and dwm very obviously
> >> > cater to different people'. My line was just illustration how
> different
> >> > (unmixable?) they are.
> >> >
> >> > So everybody sorry if I was rude but I still can't understand what I
> >> > did wrong? 'Stop whining' is rude on any language.
> >> >
> >> > Dusan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 24 May 2009 12:29:12 -0400
> >> > Thomas Gallen <kaori.hinata_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I don't necessarily agree with Uriel's solution but your tone is no
> >> > > less rude and point no more correct. The wmii mailing list was a
> >> > > mailing list for wmii, the dwm mailing list was a mailing list for
> >> > > dwm, NEITHER of them were the Slashdot RSS feed. Regardless of how
> >> > > "interesting" you thought the topics were (and I admit I liked a few
> >> > > of them). Placing them on either of those lists is unnecessary and
> >> > > disruptiive and I think we need a separate mailing list for topics
> >> > > like those.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ever since the list merger the sheer amount of flaming, elitism and
> >> > > arguments has increased exponentially and it's disgusting to have to
> >> > > watch. Your line on wmii and dwm being the latest example. wmii and
> >> > > dwm very obviously cater to different people so arguing about it is
> a
> >> > > stupid thing to do and yet you voluntarily did just that. You make
> >> > > your views abundantly clear so why don't you voice your concerns to
> >> > > the people in charge instead of taking it out on other people?
> >> > >
> >> > > If you want to start a topic regarding splitting the lists again (or
> >> > > labelling them differently) I would gladly participate as that seems
> >> > > to be a topic on which we both agree.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thomas
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 05:44:54PM +0200, Dusan wrote:
> >> > > > Sorry but you are not right, not to mention rude response. Dwm
> list
> >> > > > has plenty of _interesting_ topics related to dwm or any other
> >> > > > minimal suckless project. It is fantastic way to get informed
> about
> >> > > > other minimal projects and better ways to do something. Wmii is
> >> > > > bloatware for me or at least topic that has nothing common with
> >> > > > dwm. Correct me if I am wrong. As much as I am thrilled to read
> >> > > > about what is the best way to describe shortcut in wmii manual, I
> >> > > > should not be forced to read that except if I choose to do so.
> Same
> >> > > > as would make no sense to mix dwm and gnome mailing lists make no
> >> > > > sense to mix dwm and wmii mailing lists.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dusan
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Sun, 24 May 2009 16:15:17 +0200
> >> > > > Uriel <lost.goblin_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Stop whining, the dwm list had tons of non-dwm chatter, if you
> >> > > > > are not interested in one thread, press the delete button.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > uriel
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Benjamin Conner
> >> > > > > <tommydabomby_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > >> Why not to maintain dwm list and redirect its content to dev
> >> > > > > >> list?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > That's a great idea!
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:19 AM, pmarin <pacogeek_AT_gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> Why not to maintain dwm list and redirect its content to dev
> >> > > > > >> list?
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Benjamin Conner
> >> > > > > >> <tommydabomby_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > >> > I'd like to know this too. I would only like dwm ones like
> >> > > > > >> > the lists used
> >> > > > > >> > to be.
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Dusan <ef_dva_AT_yahoo.com>
> >> > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> Is there a way to get only dwm related emails? Since lists
> >> > > > > >> >> are merged I get bunch of wmii related ones and frankly I
> >> > > > > >> >> don't need them at all.
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