Re: [dev] Re: ed, vi, vim and EOLs via ff+ffs

From: markus schnalke <>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:17:18 +0100

[2009-11-06 10:22] Sven Guckes <>
> * Uriel <> [2009-11-05 10:36]:
> > I use ed almost every day, it is by far the
> > fastest way to to small edits, by the time vi
> > starts up, I have typed /foo\n c\n bar\n .\n wq\n
> you can type these commands while vi starts up?
> all within half a second or less? respect!
> (does that "vi" gui really slow down
> the startup that much? hmm...)

At least over a slow connection it does. I often work over 64k and the
ncurses interface is only usable without delay when I have the whole
bandwidth for the interactive session.

Ed does not need to print the whole screen when it starts up.

> > And here is the thing about ed, I know (or used to
> > anyway) every command and feature inside-out by heart,
> > while *nobody* knows what 1% of the vim options do!
> vim has about 400 options. i claim to know a dozen
> which is clearly about one percent. so you're wrong. :-P

Discussing with Sven on Vim is like diskussing with Uriel on Plan9.
With the only difference that Sven doesn't say ``liquid shit'' so
often. ;-)

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