Re: [dev] Suckless operating system

From: Ethan Grammatikidis <>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:36:26 +0100

On 14 Jun 2010, at 22:35, Ilya Ilembitov wrote:
> So, here is my question. If we take only modern and active projects,
> how standard are they? Suppose, we have a browser engine that
> implements only the current standards (OK, may be some legacy
> standards, but no IE or other tweaks), will we still be able to use
> 95% of the web?

Probably, but why? There's nothing suckless at all about the standards
coming out of the w3c. I don't know much about rendering html but I
recently made a web server, and while I started out with the noble
intent of supporting standards, before I was done I just had to
declare http 1.1 schizophrenic and delusional!

Consider this: Out of web browser and web server, which one has to
examine the data in order to render it, and which one is just reading
it from the disk and dumping it down a pipe? Which one's resources are
at a premium, and which is mostly idling between fetching web pages?
With those two questions in mind, can someone please tell me what the
w3c were collectively smoking when they made content-type mandatory in
http 1.1? If that isn't enough argument, it's actually impossible to
set content-type correctly from file extension. No-one really tries
and I very much doubt they ever did, but that didn't stop the w3c from
making it mandatory. Idiots.

"Schizophrenic" actually refers to a less serious problem, but still a
bizarre one. Dates are provided in headers to guide caching, very
useful in itself but the date format is about as long-winded as it can
get and it's US-localised too. With that in mind, why are chunk length
values for chunked encoding given in hex? That's not even consistent
with the length value of content-length, which is decimal. And what
titan amongst geniuses decided it was appropriate to apply chunked
encoding to the http headers?

Complexity is not a function of the number of features. Some features  
exist only because complexity was _removed_ from the underlying system.
Received on Mon Jun 14 2010 - 22:36:26 UTC

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