Re: [dev] Suckless operating system

From: pancake <pancake_AT_youterm.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:58:47 +0200

I was the author of Bee GNU/Hurd. Few years ago I did my own GNU/Hurd
distro based on pkgsrc package system and with my own build system,
because the Debian and GNU ones were completely unusable and inpracticable.

The sitaution didnt changed too much. Debian maintains many patches that
fixes things, and GNU will never accept them, the system is unusable and
unstable.

The main reason why GNU/HURD is in this situation is because Mach is a
bloated microkernel. The L4 port has never been adopted by the whole
community and the OSKIT is a 800MB userland monster to handle drivers.

As the system is not usable for editing/compiling code because the
console is broken and the X is quite slow and the kernel sometimes crashes.
it makes the system very weird as for development..to not say for users.

Nothing changed in hurd in the past 20 years. In fact.. I dont think this
will never change :)

--pancake

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:49:04 +0200
Dieter Plaetinck <dieter_AT_plaetinck.be> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:18:20 -0400
> Kris Maglione <maglione.k_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 04:05:24PM +0200, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
> > >On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:43:31 -0400
> > >Kurt H Maier <karmaflux_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> This is what makes the suckless list better. Otherwise you wind up
> > >> with shit like http://www.archhurd.org/
> > >>
> > >
> > >What's wrong with arch hurd?
> >
> > The HURD part, obviously.
> >
>
> hmm. i'm not too familiar with hurd, but afaik it's supposed to be
> simpler and more elegant then Linux
>
> Dieter
>
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