Re: [dev] Sandy editor

From: Rafa Garcia Gallego <>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 12:49:51 +0200


I've pushed a couple of changes: the control-only keymap is now the
default (the former one is there as config.old.h, but should be
removed soon unless someone reports using and preferring it), Ctrl-Q
warns before quitting, Ctrl-t copies and the prompt commands are a bit
more vi-like now ('/' and '?' search, '|' pipes, 'w' saves....) for
convenience and speed since some actions as changing syntax or saving
with a different filename, etc., did not find their own keybinding.
Please test and comment.

Back to the modal/non-modal conundrum:

- Most "normal" editors *do* have a slight modality (e.g. replace
instead of insert, etc). Sandy does have a different behavior when
selecting text vs. when moving, but it is bearable and IMHO it does no
lead to confussion. Some questions: do we want to avoid modes as much
as possible? even if that means losing some "power-user"

- Vi OTOH *does* have keybinding chains / compound commands (try
typing a simple text in English, then do "d2Fe" in command mode and
think what went on there), though I think we can all agree their
damage is lesser than in emacs. Some more questions: do we want to
avoid prefixes and modifiers as much as possible? even if this means
having to repeat a keybinding a couple of times?

If the answer to all these questions is 'yes', then we will probably
end up with a quite simple, suckless editor. As long as it lets me
select text using a regex and then filter the selection trough an
arbitrary command, it ought to be enough for me. At least in theory.

Answering direct questions: accepting a number modifier to commands
seems cool and simple enough and I do use it a lot in vim. I was
trying to avoid it for simplicity's sake, but if you lot feel it is
necessary, then we can go ahead and add it. Let me know what you

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