Re: [dev] [st] windows port?

From: Alexander Sedov <>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:22:11 +0400

> This. Knowledge and money do not correlate where I come from - how
> else can those biggest idiots be so successful in capitalism?
> Money in more ancient times was about trust, and you pay him because
> you trust him with your health. So the doctor has, in that sense, as
> much responsibility for your health as you pay him, except his taking
> responsibility does not mean he can solve your health problem.
> Yes, apple do a comparably good job at taking responsibility and,
> obviously, and then responding to issues. But in the case of M$
> Windows, you pay for a system that will likely abuse your cpu and
> bandwidth for cyber crime and spyware which must be such a profitable
> business that they are probably funding M$ by now, keeping up the
> fishy business just a wee longer. Thanks to windows 8 the dark age may
> finally have ended - when "no one" using this shit any more may become
> true.
Yeah, Win8 is pitiful, but Win7 was a great breakthrough compared to WinXP.
Also, common sense protects you from spyware rather well.
The bad thing is, I don't see any alternatives to Win7 for clueless
user. MacOsX is just too expensive, "Ubuntu" is synonym for
"unreliable", and other Linux distributions and OS like like FreeBSD
still lack is usability and support. Hopefully everyone will
eventually switch to Kolibri, but that's only my dream.
> The first question you need to answer yourself is what are your
> priorities. I'm currently working for non-engineers and have to
> struggle for my sanity sometimes from all the FUD and need to find
> something fun to tinker with. RADs are a great idea to work WITH,
> except for the poor guy who needs to work AROUND them - and that's the
> spot where code use, code reuse and code abuse will ever be done
> wrong, just because Excel is good enough for a 3d rendering engine,
> not many people have been using it as such. I guess Excel could boot
> linux, if you ask it nicely enough. If you work with computers you'll
> write programs that are useful and may use the subset of the features
> an OS and an environment provides you with. The point is, how hard is
> it for a programmer to write an alarm script based on cron and his
> favorite music player, and then, exactly the opposite happens when you
> switch the target audience, how in the world can you let a non-savvy
> do that. Then we obviously need more .NET
I'm not sure about needing more dotnet, but I'd like to point out that
most programmers write stuff for non-programmers nowadays. So, letting
non-savvy people do stuff is the new reality.
About code reuse and code abuse, I couldn't agree more.
> Stop asking the question in a way that requires .NET. Well, and then
> there is scratch, obviously [1]. Where again, most people will give up
> on scratch when they can't make things work like they have in mind,
> because they just don't care to think about all the edge cases and
> details they suddenly have to take care of.
"If beer and women are not the answer, then you're asking wrong questions" :).
From my point of view, dotnet is mediocre realization of great idea:
language interoperability by design and free JIT for everyone. The
problem is, learning C# cannot make one a good programmer, I've seen
many Javaists that have no frigging clue about what's call stack, how
long does it take to compare strings, et cetera.
Also, I've never seen any actual Scratch programs aside from short
flash animations and "games". I'm rather surprised that something of
this level of quality/usefulness originated in MIT.
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