Re: [dev] rebooting the web (it was: surf rewrite for WebKit2GTK)

From: Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey_AT_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:07:59 -0400

 What happened to running Dis on a Javascript platform or running drawterm
 on HTML5/JS?

 Right now if you started to program sane applications in A sane langauge,
 making display and use easy, then just have it run over draw, why wouldn't
 that achieve what you guys want?

On 31 October 2014 15:04, Alexandre Niveau <alexandre.niveau_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
> On 31/10/2014 16:48, FRIGN wrote:
>>
>> To put it simply, what has the W3C been doing all these past years?
>> Right! Stacking more and more stuff on top of what was there. However,
>> writing (X)HTML hasn't become simpler in any way!
>> Or who can possibly remember this every time he writes a new page:
>>
>> <?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?>
>> <?xml-stylesheet type='text/css' href='style.css' ?>
>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC '-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN'
>> 'http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd'>
>> <html xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml' xml:lang='en' lang='en'>
>
>
> I'm probably missing something here, but specifically the HTML boilerplate
> *did* become drastically simpler in the last few years.
> Now [1] an HTML5 page is just supposed to be:
>
> <!DOCTYPE html>
> <html lang=en>
> <head>
> <meta charset="UTF-8">
> <title>Page title</title>
> </head>
> <body>
> <p>Hello world</p>
> </body>
> </html>
>
> And that's actually the full version; thanks to tag omission [2], the
> following is equivalent and also completely valid:
>
> <!DOCTYPE html>
> <meta charset=UTF-8>
> <title>Page title</title>
> <p>Hello world</p>
>
> I'd say it's hard to suck less than that as far as HTML goes…
>
> Also it's worth noting that while it's still recommended to keep the meta
> charset tag in there, using any encoding other than UTF-8 is invalid HTML5
> [3].
>
> I believe that all these simplifications do not break backwards
> compatibility too much (that's the whole point), but I'm not certain. Maybe
> that's the reason why you still have to use XHTML?
>
> Regards,
>
> A.N.
>
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/semantics.html#semantics
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html#syntax-tag-omission
> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/document-metadata.html#attr-meta-charset
>
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