Re: [dev] [question] Does bash suck?

From: Marc Collin <>
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 10:47:52 -0300

> OpenBSD's ksh is excellent, but not sure if it was ever ported anywhere
It was, and it's called loksh. stali recommends it.
Maybe there could be a flag option to disable horizontal scrolling?

On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Kamil CholewiƄski <> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2016, Marc Collin <> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> Recently a user from suckless told me that bash sucks, but before I
>> could ask why he went offline.
>> I tried looking at page about software that sucks, but
>> couldn't find anything about bash.
>> I can imagine why it sucks - no portability! #/bin/sh should be
>> enough for everyone. Is that it or is something else to the matter?
>> Maybe an entry to suck page could be good to clarify
>> things and also warn new users.
>> Best wishes.
> TL;DR all shells suck horribly.
> Bash is slow, buggy, incompatible, security disaster, bloated, quirky.
> If you'd like a slow, buggy, bloated and quirky shell that sucks just
> slightly less than bash and has more features, try zsh.
> mksh is very nice for interactive use, but lacks edit undo (C-_), which
> drives me mad. Also it's always trying to fit a long command on a single
> line by scrolling it horizontally, which makes mouse copy-pasting a
> total pain.
> OpenBSD's ksh is excellent, but not sure if it was ever ported anywhere
> else. Also it shares mksh's insane input line scrolling thing.
> csh is insane for scripting. Also I don't want to bother using an
> interactive shell if it's not (more or less) the same language I could
> use for scripts.
> I don't like rc since there are two incompatible implementations, one is
> the real thing and the other is actually usable for interactive use.
> For scripting, use #!/bin/sh, but do yourself a favor and if you're
> bound to go over the 1000 LOC mark, use Lua, Python, Perl, etc instead.
> K.
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