Re: [dev] Re: Linux distros that don't suck too too much

From: Adrian Grigore <>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 14:01:37 +0300

I jumped from Ubuntu, to Arch and currently am very happy with
OpenBSD. I think only 9front can supersede it. Note tho, that it's
very bare bones so you'll spend some time understanding it but it's
definitely worth it.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Rubén Llorente
<> wrote:
> hiro <> wrote:
>> So that's why I want an alternative that is fit
>> to be used by anyone.
> I doubt you can make a suckless anything that fits that criteria.
> Modern user expectations often require the use of code or technologies
> that are just a conceptual mess. Web applications are a great example.
> In order to fullfill user expectations, you need to instal a piece of
> software that executes every single piece of client-side script it runs
> into and then prays for it not to be malware. It also has to deal with
> ill-formated pages, which requires some sort of quirk mode on the
> parser, which is sucky because it could be rendering anything but what
> the web developer intended. Users expect one of these to work, and an
> alternative that is not js-happy - for example, requires a confirmation
> before executing each script - or does not tolerate malformed pages
> therefore does not fit your criteria.
> Many people has been trained to expect crappy behaviours from their
> software in many fields, and thus any software which is to be used by
> anyone in that field must behave in the crappy way the user is
> expecting. Some of these fields are expected to be of interest for most
> users, like web browsing.
> Therefore I submit the theory that software that does not suck but is
> usable by everybody is not possible in certain fields, and since at
> least some of those fields must be covered by any user-friendly
> distribution, then such a distribution must include these bad tools. If
> it didn't, it would not be computer-illiterate-friendly.
> Which means that a distribution that tries to fit every shoe cannot
> possibly be suckless by any means.
> I stopped caring too much about user-friendlyness long ago, because
> no matter what you do, lambs will always find a way to make a mess out
> of the easy to use software. The only way a computer-illiterate is going
> to be able to use a computer properly is by educating herself or by
> hiring somebody to do the administration.
> --
> OpenPGP Key Fingerprint:
> BB5A C2A2 2CAD ACB7 D50D C081 1DB9 6FC4 5AB7 92FA

Received on Thu May 12 2016 - 13:01:37 CEST

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.0 : Thu May 12 2016 - 13:12:09 CEST