Re: [dev] Re: Linux distros that don't suck too too much

From: Ben Woolley <>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 17:45:34 -0700

The word "properly" presumes a purpose/end/effect. Billions of people use computers for their own purposes. If you are going to be making an argument about how people should be using their computers, you need to explain what purpose you are using, and why it doesn't satisfy the purpose.

> On May 12, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Rubén Llorente <> wrote:
> hiro <> wrote:
>>> of the easy to use software. The only way a computer-illiterate is going
>>> to be able to use a computer properly is by educating herself or by
>>> hiring somebody to do the administration.
>> I disagree about that part.
>> My "literate" computer usage is nothing i'm very proud of. I regret it even.
> Let's break it down to logic.
> If a user does not know how to use a complex tool, he is not able
> to use it properly (1)
> The only way to know how to use a complex tool is by learning how
> to use it (2)
> Computers are complex tools. Therefore, if you don't know how to use
> it, you won't be able to use it properly and the only way to use it is
> by learing how to use it.
> Any claims that somebody without prior knowledge of computers can use
> one properly without any education on the matter is only valid if you
> think (1) is invalid or that computers are not complex tools. Since
> negating any of those points is an absurd, then any claim that
> somebody without knownledge of the field can use the computer is an
> absurd too.
> The reason many people does not regard activities performed with
> computers as "complex" in the modern age is because they have been
> exposed to them long enough to learn how to use them up to some point.
> It is worth noticing that people with actually zero exposition to
> computers - like old people in rural isolated areas - is not able to
> create an email account or launch a preinstalled game without a great
> effort (which counts as learning experience).
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