Re: [dev] Collecting sins of Apple

From: Laslo Hunhold <>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 13:34:48 +0200

On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 12:53:36 +0200
Anselm R Garbe <> wrote:

Hey Anselm,

> I kind of disagree here. I'm using both, PC laptops and MacBooks and
> besides the aluminium case and the screen, MacBooks are in no way
> superior or more reliable than the competition -- both in terms
> hardware and software.

I wasn't talking about us pros, but the consumer market. We know how to
take care of our systems, we so to say are "mature".

> To bring it to one sentence, Apple is about providing their stuff as
> incompatible as possible with all non-Apple stuff.

Yes this is true, however, as horrible as this monoculture is, it is
heaven for all the "immature" users.

> It starts with the power cable, proceeds with the keyboard layout,
> goes on with accessory cable adapters and doesn't end with their
> software stack consisting of propietary Apple-only protocols to gain
> the "best experience" (a recent example is Apples new earpot -- the
> best voice quality can only be got when using a recent iPhone).
> I don't really like this. I don't support this monoculturalism.

I didn't say I'm supporting it, but when discussing these things we
should also try to have a neutral viewpoint and assess why Apple is
doing things they are doing and why it is successful.
We should not aim for "consumers" at, this is not our
purpose. We can criticize the fact that Apple does not allow users to
really mature beyond developing iOS or macOS apps, but apart from that,
what are the really compelling reasons for a Mac user to make the
switch to Linux/BSD? How can we convince people to make the switch?

With best regards


Laslo Hunhold <>
Received on Tue Oct 25 2016 - 13:34:48 CEST

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