Re: [dev] an approach to Matrix client that sucks less

From: anigger <>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 07:54:43 +0200

tox didn't die

it's alive and well

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 20:54:42 +0100
Laslo Hunhold <> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:44:19 -0500
> "Greg Reagle" <> wrote:
> Dear Greg,
> > Hi y'all. I don't see any Matrix client at
> > or
> > and I am thinking of making one. I use the web app client
> > which has a lot of features, but is bloated.
> >
> > Do any of you know of a Matrix client that is not bloated? I have
> > looked at many of the clients at I have
> > tried several. Some of them are either too bloated, use a language
> > I'm not crazy about, or lack some basic features (too immature).
> >
> > I have never used Weechat and am feeling too lazy to learn. I
> > expect there would be a lot to learn just to use it as an IRC
> > client, then as a Matrix client I don't know how well it works. I
> > am reluctant to invest the time and effort (but maybe I should, I
> > don't know).
> >
> > I might write my own Matrix client. I would probably use Lua. C is
> > too low level for my taste. Would any of you be interested in
> > contributing? I expect I would start by writing command line
> > interface. CLI would be good to have, and I could learn a lot about
> > implementing Matrix without being bothered by UI issues. After the
> > CLI was done, then I would consider what to do next, maybe a GUI,
> > maybe a TUI, etc.
> yes, we haven't looked into Matrix much here. I have to admit that
> it's the most promising protocol out there, in my opinion. What
> matters for a suckless client is the interface. A few years ago,
> Dimitris, Hiltjo, I and a few others wrote a client for toxcore, and
> we kept it similar to ii with a file based hierarchy. The client
> itself was event-driven and had a pretty sophisticated state machine
> to handle the different states. We even supported calls and file
> transfers, but sadly, tox died due to internal conflicts and an
> inconsistent API.
> Investigating Matrix is definitely a nice thing! I am not a big fan of
> Lua though, but what matters is the interface. From that point on, it
> shouldn't matter which language you use to implement it.
> With best regards
> Laslo
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