Re: [wmii] Inferno/Styx

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Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 20:48:14 -0700

 Yes I worked with Dave Presotto at Lucent on a project using a
 proof of concept with a and tried using the inferno concept with
 some window managers including early versions of wmii and icon. Mostt of
 these ideas came from plan9 at bell labs... They were largely shunned by the
 Object Software community at large because Plan9 and Interno did not
 subscribe to the propaganda of the object model architecture and instead
 extended the working and efficient ideas in C and in UNIX as wmii and now
 wmiii are doing with the "tagging" concept. This concept lets you use the
 key board like Plan9 did to manage through "plumbing" to mapp various things
 like PIPEs between processes but on a simpler and less abstract level. This
 process is quite powerful and thus wmiii does not have a large following as
 it could because almost all of the wmii and wmiii users are not brainwashed.

 The subscribe to a "german engineering" software philosophy which is clean,
 efficient, and does not burden the programmer with abstractions that do
 little but create a way to confuse yourself latter on where even you can not
 read your own code... and many C++ programs are fat, blotted object mind
 control that emenated from the C++ paradigm which did little except add a
 layer of "programmable confusion" to a very nice programming language call
 C. By the way most mission critical code in medical and military
 applications is still writeen in C.... I wonder why..??? Anyways you need to
 look closer to wmiii and play with the tagging.. it can do a alot of things
 very fast and once you set up your "tagged model" you can realy fly from one
 thing to another in wmiii.

 Thanks ... an advocate for Intelligent windowing systems like wmiii :)
 from inforVision - thanks... :))

On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 09:57:51PM -0400, Kris Maglione wrote:
> Has anyone on this list tried using the wmii fs with Inferno? If so, have
> you had success?
> I've tried it and I'm able to mount it, but there are some weird problems.
> First of all, I can't create directories, though I can delete them. Second,
> if I cd to a directory and type lc, I get the listing of the mount point,
> not the directory I'm in. I can, for instance, `lc bar` from the mount
> point and get listings for /bar, but when I cd to bar, lc gives the mount
> point listing and `lc bar` gives a no such file error. Third, acmee can't
> seem to read or write any files below the mount point, which is probably
> related to the cd problem above. It also freezes when I try to read
> /event, but that's a problem with acme (no eof).
> It would be very convenient for me to be able to script wmii from inside
> Inferno, so I'd really like to clear this up if possible.
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