Re: [wmii] wmii-4 fs proposal/discussion

On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 08:41 -0400, Bill Puschmann wrote:

> (NOT intending to sound negative)
> It sounds like you're still trying to think of tags as workspaces.
> TAGS != WORKSPACES. Uriel beat that into my head. And, for once, I'm
> glad he did. By insisting that you need tags listed in a specific
> order, you're not using them correctly. In fact, listing them
> alphabetically is the only correct way to use tags - because they are
> a dynamic set of all existing items... not an ordered list.
>
> They were, while in development, originally mapped to numbers. That,
> IMHO, was GREAT for development - BAD for philosophy. Too many people
> have mistaken them as workspaces. First thing anyone coming to WMII
> should do is to start mapping them to short words. Like you did with
> dev and web. But at that point, don't think of it as a "dev space" or
> a "web space" -- but as "a set of all dev windows" or "a set of all
> web windows". Ordering them left and right only confuses the idiom.
> (and for the same reasons, I can't stand the "choose next tag"
> shortcuts that people are requesting.... because it encourages an
> incorrect view of the environment.... but I love the mappings of first
> tag to "$MODKEY-1", etc that some wonderful saint posted to the code
> snippets page - not because of "first" or "second" but because I can
> count when I look at the bottom left of the screen :)

Agree with all above.

Is this "wrong" thinking, or shouldn't I be able to choose to "view"
multiple tags at the same time? For instance, $MODKEY-t, then type in
"email+www" to view everything tagged either email or www? For that
matter, maybe I'd want to select "email|www" for the union of those tags
and "email&www" for the intersection of those tags.
-RPM

> I agree that your workspace names are mangled. But I think that your
> mental picture of the window manager is just slightly incorrect. I
> promise I'm not trying to sound negative.
>
>
>
> On 6/9/06, Fernando Canizo <conan_AT_lugmen.org.ar> wrote:
>
> El 09/jun/2006 a las 07:21 -0300, Anselm me decía:
> > New (proposal):
> >
> > [The idea is to remove the column-representation in the
> fs-hierarchy,
> > because this is not used.]
>
> > /tagrules
> > /tag/NAME/0 (floating clients) (*)
> > /tag/NAME/1 (column 1) (*)
> > /tag/NAME/ctl
> >
> >
> > (*) Each tag contains a file pro area (0 == floating area,
> 1,... == columns), whereas each line looks as follows:
>
> Since you are considering modifying the fs, please take in
> consideration my sugestion for tags having an order property,
> so we
> can have ordered tags without having to put numbers in their
> names or
> relaying on strange names.
>
> I want my 'dev' tag to come after my 'web' tag no matter what
> abecedary says, and without mangling the names like: '3.web'
> '4.dev'
>
> /tag/some_name/order
>
> where order takes an integer from 0 to n
>
> If user puts same number on two or more tags, then they get
> lexicographically ordered.
>
> Also i like having all the tags in one place, not like wmii-3
> stable
> release wich has all flying around. I like that 'tag/' dir.
>
> --
> Fernando Canizo - http://www.lugmen.org.ar/~conan/
> Lo seguía como un mal recuerdo
>
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