Re: [wmii] wmii-4 fs proposal/discussion

From: Bill Puschmann <>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 08:41:13 -0400

(NOT intending to sound negative)
It sounds like you're still trying to think of tags as workspaces. TAGS !=
WORKSPACES. Uriel beat that into my head. And, for once, I'm glad he did.
By insisting that you need tags listed in a specific order, you're not using
them correctly. In fact, listing them alphabetically is the only correct
way to use tags - because they are a dynamic set of all existing items...
not an ordered list.

They were, while in development, originally mapped to numbers. That, IMHO,
was GREAT for development - BAD for philosophy. Too many people have
mistaken them as workspaces. First thing anyone coming to WMII should do is
to start mapping them to short words. Like you did with dev and web. But
at that point, don't think of it as a "dev space" or a "web space" -- but as
"a set of all dev windows" or "a set of all web windows". Ordering them
left and right only confuses the idiom. (and for the same reasons, I can't
stand the "choose next tag" shortcuts that people are requesting.... because
it encourages an incorrect view of the environment.... but I love the
mappings of first tag to "$MODKEY-1", etc that some wonderful saint posted
to the code snippets page - not because of "first" or "second" but because I
can count when I look at the bottom left of the screen :)

I agree that your workspace names are mangled. But I think that your mental
picture of the window manager is just slightly incorrect. I promise I'm not
trying to sound negative.

On 6/9/06, Fernando Canizo <> wrote:
> El 09/jun/2006 a las 07:21 -0300, Anselm me decía:
> > New (proposal):
> >
> > [The idea is to remove the column-representation in the fs-hierarchy,
> > because this is not used.]
> > /tagrules
> > /tag/NAME/0 (floating clients) (*)
> > /tag/NAME/1 (column 1) (*)
> > /tag/NAME/ctl
> >
> >
> > (*) Each tag contains a file pro area (0 == floating area, 1,... ==
> columns), whereas each line looks as follows:
> Since you are considering modifying the fs, please take in
> consideration my sugestion for tags having an order property, so we
> can have ordered tags without having to put numbers in their names or
> relaying on strange names.
> I want my 'dev' tag to come after my 'web' tag no matter what
> abecedary says, and without mangling the names like: '3.web' ''
> /tag/some_name/order
> where order takes an integer from 0 to n
> If user puts same number on two or more tags, then they get
> lexicographically ordered.
> Also i like having all the tags in one place, not like wmii-3 stable
> release wich has all flying around. I like that 'tag/' dir.
> --
> Fernando Canizo -
> Lo seguía como un mal recuerdo
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