Re: [wmii] 10kloc project, wmii maintainer change

From: Geoffrey A. Washburn <>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:44:21 -0400 (EDT)

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Anselm R. Garbe wrote:

> I already added a different main page which points to current
> projects like wmii at Maybe we can gain
> more influence in the open source and software community with
> this philosophy.

         While minimalism is admirable, I think it fallacious to believe
   that "that software exceeding this maximum is bloated and seriously
   wrong". Some configurations of the Plan 9 kernel (see are above ten thousand
   lines. There is no hope of writing a modern compiler in less than
   ten thousand lines (unless you want to pay a significant performance
   penalty by making every phase a separate program "filter" -- not to
   mention how bloated it would become by have "n" additional lexers and

         Furthermore, the philosophy as described on the web site is
   under-developed. It does not take into account modularity
   mechanisms -- if the complexity is hidden behind a well defined
   interface, is it really complex? This is probably because people
   programming in C have no access to data abstraction. Which raises
   another problem: 10kloc in what language? In the languages I use, I
   can get as much done with half the code of a C program, so does that
   mean they must only be 5kloc to qualify for

         A better philosophy would be one based upon Einstein's quote
   "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler".
   Trying to fit everything into a less than 10kloc mold is going to
   require making things simpler than they ought to be.

--- Geoff Washburn | | ---
Received on Wed Jul 19 2006 - 16:44:24 UTC

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