Re: [wmii] wmii on wikipedia

Well I understand all reasons mentioned by you below and I
apologize that I did several mistakes through giving up the
wmii.de domain some years ago and that I'm a rather bad system
administrator. I feel sorry for it.

However please make a decision if you really want to move the
wmii page or if the new system will be ok for you. I plan to do
the switch on this Sunday. The current version under development
version can be found at

        http://dweb.suckless.org

It is far from finished from a content POV, but I tried to
reorganize the contents in a way, that those which are relevant
for all software currently hosted at suckless.org end up in
common/, and everything else in the specific place. diri has no
proper web page there yet though.

If you need integrating bug tracking + code browsing a la trac,
I don't see any reason why the wiki pages should be on the same
host. I only ask to keep the information in one place that all
can profit from the community input. I never intended to split
up the projects.

But I will accept any decision of you guys since I'm not
involved in wmii/libixp development anymore for quite a long
time.

So if you want to move the wmii contents elsewhere, I'd propose
to create a wmii page in the suckless.org wiki which makes sure
where the new wmii stuff is hosted.

Kind regards,
     Anselm

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 09:20:20PM +0200, Uriel wrote:
> Oh, by the way, another reason for moving is so eventually we can also
> provide integrated bug tracking, source browsing and other such
> features (ala trac). This again will take some time, but
> it will remain well integrated with the new site and nothing will need
> to be changed around (AFAIK the new suckless site is going to be
> purely static, which has clearly some advantages, but wont work for
> those kinds of requirements).
>
> uriel
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Uriel <uriel99_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
> > I already told you that I got tired of the site moving around again
> > and again, and in most unreliable ways, after every move any links to
> > any page in the old site will break, for 100th time, and it was me
> > (and others like me) that had to go around fixing all the damned links
> > (there are still *hundreds* of links out there to various long gone
> > wmii sites).
> >
> > So as I already told you if you are going to mess suckless.org around
> > once more, I'm moving the wmii website to wmii.cat-v.org instead where
> > I will personally make sure it doesn't move again (and the urls stay
> > sane and stable). If we are going to break things one more time, lets
> > at least make sure it is for good, and unfortunately your track record
> > speaks strongly against trusting you to get this right (my blood still
> > boils when I think of how you messed up wmii.de)
> >
> > The switch is obviously not complete yet, and any comments,
> > suggestions and corrections related to the new site are welcome.
> >
> > A temporary limitation is that wmii.cat-v.org is not yet a wiki, but
> > nobody was working on the old wiki anyway, and most of it was in need
> > of some serious updating. http://wmii.cat-v.org will eventually be
> > editable, but the links will remain stable.
> >
> > I also have moved diri, that sadly never had a proper website to
> > http://repo.cat-v.org/diri/ and as I have mentioned before, I plan to
> > setup a page for wmi so people that still use it can still find the
> > latest source and other resources. You have shown again and again that
> > once you lose interest you don't care about the users of your
> > software, which is ok, but I think not pissing people off for not
> > reason is worth the small effort needed to maintain a stable and
> > minimally reliable website.
> >
> > I thought this had been publicly discussed in this list a few weeks
> > ago. If anyone has any better ideas or suggestions they are always
> > welcome
> >
> > Peace and best wishes
> >
> > uriel
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Anselm R. Garbe <arg_AT_suckless.org> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 09:17:29PM +0200, hiro wrote:
> >>> Not sure if migration is completed, but this is the new site.
> >>>
> >>> On 7/9/08, cole clippard <coleppard_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > I was on wikipedia, and although I thought Suckless.org was WMII's official
> >>> > site, it listed http://wmii.cat-v.org/.
> >>> > Which is right, and should I edit it?
> >>
> >> Well I'd like to know if this move is really gonna happen,
> >> because in my opinion wmii.cat-v.org is only a temporary
> >> fallback. But I might be wrong here. I always planned to have
> >> wmii at the new www.suckless.org which is currently under
> >> development and will be launched this weekend.
> >>
> >> Sorry for being slow, but I'm rather busy and it took longer
> >> than originally planned.
> >>
> >> Please enlighten me, I don't want to do double work if you
> >> aren't interested anymore.
> >>
> >> The new website I'm working on consists of a public hg wiki
> >> repository everyone can pull and push to, though the website
> >> will be updated by moderators only. However there will be an
> >> untrusted web site with all contributed changes which haven't
> >> been reviewed by the moderators.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> --
> >> Anselm R. Garbe >< http://www.suckless.org/ >< GPG key: 0D73F361
Received on Thu Jul 10 2008 - 21:34:31 UTC