On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 17:04:12 +0000
Ammar James <ammar.james_AT_alumni.stonybrook.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 11:06:35PM +0100, Mattias Andrée
> wrote:
> > Sorry, it would be a douche move in rank with
> > patenting maths, and then enforce it.
> >
>
> Algorithms can be patented in the US.
I know. Other elements of maths can be patented
too in the US.
For example, singular value decomposition is
patented. And the was well known when it was
patented. Anyone who has read list a little
but more than the basics of matrices now of
SVD. Thankfully Sweden, we I live, has somewhat
reasonable patent laws: maths cannot be patented
(at least I think not, but software can), patent-pending
does not exist and if you publish while it is being
reviewed for patent it will be rejected, and you
cannot be sued because of patent violation unless
it is done in a professional activity.
>
> PageRank is a good example:
> https://www.google.com/patents/US628
>
>
> Best,
> Ammar.
>
> > On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 23:05:01 +0100
> > Mattias Andrée <maandree_AT_kth.se> wrote:
> >
> > > Probably not. It would be a douche move in rank with
> > > patent trolling, and you would probably be less like
> > > to win. More likely is that people make proprietary
> > > forks and do not release the source code.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:59:08 -0200
> > > Marcel Rodrigues <marcelgmr_AT_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Genuine question: does anyone know of any actual
> > > > instance where some code released as "public domain"
> > > > caused trouble for citizens (from whatever country)
> > > > who copied it?
> > > >
> > > > 2015-12-23 19:51 GMT-02:00 Marcel Rodrigues
> > > > <marcelgmr_AT_gmail.com>:
> > > > > Genuine question: does anyone know of any actual
> > > > > instance where some code released as "public
> > > > > domain" caused trouble for citizens (from
> > > > > whatever country) who copied it?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2015-12-23 19:13 GMT-02:00 Mattias Andrée
> > > > > <maandree_AT_kth.se>:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 21:03:11 +0000
> > > > >> mpu <quentin_AT_c9x.me> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > quentin_AT_c9x.me (mpu) wrote:
> > > > >> > > Hi folks,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I wrote some tools to design bitmap fonts.
> > > > >> > > Maybe you'll be interested.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > http://github.com/mpu/fnt/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I feel bad that this whole discussion ended up
> > > > >> > being about legal matters. Because some people
> > > > >> > seem unable to simply copy-paste 200 lines of
> > > > >> > code when it does not have a license, I put
> > > > >> > one in the Github repo.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You should not feel bad about that. The silence
> > > > >> otherwise and combined with this discussion
> > > > >> probably indicates that we are interested, at
> > > > >> least I am, and have not technical complaints.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I think I'm starting to understand __20h__'s
> > > > >> > "copy me if you can", maybe it should be "copy
> > > > >> > me if you dare".
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "copy me if you can" is an informal license,
> > > > >> which is actually worse then public domain. Best
> > > > >> just the have a script that creates a new
> > > > >> project and automatically puts the MIT license
> > > > >> on it. Perhaps call it gitinit.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > To be honest I feel a bit stupid putting a
> > > > >> > license on four glorified while loops. I'm
> > > > >> > not sure what is the limit for requiring a
> > > > >> > license, do we need to license awk one-liners
> > > > >> > when we paste them on IRC? If not, what was
> > > > >> > the problem with my repository. The four files
> > > > >> > provided as source are really almost
> > > > >> > one-liners.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A safe but is that anything more than hello world
> > > > >> (GNU's implementation should be considered much
> > > > >> more) is probably enough for a license. It is
> > > > >> not only the triviality that acyually needs to
> > > > >> be considered, it is the originality too.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I wonder if the people who just complained
> > > > >> > about (lack of) licensing are really concerned
> > > > >> > about it or are just of the same kind of
> > > > >> > people that find it unacceptable to write (x -
> > > > >> > 'a') in C.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What is wrong with (x - 'a')? In what context.
> > > > >> But I think people care about the licensing
> > > > >> because it would really suck to have to detail
> > > > >> with copyright infringement issues
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hopefully we can now talk about what I
> > > > >> > submitted.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It looks great!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Cheers,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > -- mpu
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
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