Re: [dev] Opinions on GNU stow

From: fao_ <>
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:37:25 +0100

On 2017-08-30 9:05 am, Kamil CholewiƄski wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017, Anselm R Garbe <> wrote:
>> Symlinks have always been a hack due to Unix' lack of a proper
>> namespaces approach. Plan 9 later fixed this by introducting a proper
>> namespaces approach[1] - but even today unices (incl. Linux) have
>> almost ignored the learnings of Plan 9 with some exceptions.
> You do have union filesystems and mount namespaces in Linux. Actual
> businesses are running them in prod and betting billions on it.

Neat. I'll take a look at that.

>> In terms of a packaging manager, I'm a proponent of the idea I
>> introduced with stali as well. It does not require a package
>> "manager", but uses git for the rootfs overlay instead. If you want a
>> certain version of the system, you check out the required version from
>> /.git.
> This is excellent for the base system, but it leaves a lot of problems
> unsolved, especially for managing optional/third-party software.
> Having two separate package management strategies for base & everything
> else is duplicated effort solving common problems, and added mental
> overhead for both developers and users.

I concur. Double the approach, quadruple the bugs.

- fao_
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