Re: [dev] Article in line with

From: Страхиња Радић <>
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 21:29:22 +0200

On 21/08/07 08:02, Sagar Acharya wrote:
> It enhances the value of suckless by pointing the problems in gigantic
> softwares. Let me know what you think.

The plural form of "software" is "software". "Softwares" is not a real word in

> Thanking you

*Thank you

> It enhances the value of suckless by pointing the problems in gigantic
> softwares.

What is said on should already be more than
enough to grasp the concept.

On 21/08/07 08:59, Hadrien Lacour wrote:
> To illustrate this with programming, the majority of "programmers" aren't
> hackers, they're barely programmers. They want a language with an ecosystem
> that gives them packages to do something as simple as padding a string, or a
> builtin HTTP server in the standard library

So much this. I'd even go to change "barely programmers" into "barely coders".

This is why I cannot seriously consider languages like Rust.

On 21/08/07 02:54, Sagar Acharya wrote:
> This is where I diverge from suckless, suckless goes for hardcore minimalistic
> software at cost of user experience.

Wrong. I'd argue that the "user experience" in most programs that suck is worse
than the "user experience" using suckless programs. That's one of the reasons we
call them like that - "programs that suck" and "suckless programs".

I believe we already discussed this about four months back.

>Addic ted to almost all software out
> there like WhatsApp, Facebook, and many more things, most are never gonna use
> stuff like dwm . And things like Windows would keep them there. I myself
> use dwm, hyperbola OS, but suggesting it to common people wouldn' t be
> wise. They'll switch back to Windows, and this time maybe forever.


This sense of urgency and worry about the size of the userbase seems to be tied
to "software development" inside (big tech) corporations. They add (or remove)
features to software guided by statistical analysis of the target audience with
the aim of supporting what is perceived to generate the most profit, not by the
program's purpose or any other reason. Suckless movement is not a corporation.
It is a gathering of programmers writing software for themselves and others who
value the principles of simplicity and quality in software.

If anyone wants to use other software, by all means they should. There's nothing
wrong with that, but on the other side, that shouldn't influence suckless

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