Re: [wmii] sh flame with Uriel

On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:18:03PM +0100, Steffen Liebergeld wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:28:13 +0100, "Anselm R. Garbe" <garbeam_AT_wmii.de> said:
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 10:28:34PM +0100, Tube wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 08:32:54PM +0100, Anselm R. Garbe wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 08:19:33PM +0100, Bartosz Trudnowski wrote:
>> > >> I think we should drop 9base. And tabs ARE useful in some
>>> situations.
>> >>
>> >> For the case of tabs, we now have a stacking feature in columns:
>> >> http://www.wmii.de/shots/20060228.png
>>>
>>> sorry, garbeam - that really looks disgusting!

>> If you got a tabbed frame with 10 clients attached all having a
>> title like 'tube_AT_localhost.foo.bar: /home/tube/projects/..' you
>> won't be able to decide for a specific client, you even would need
>> to cycle through all tabs all the time to pick up a specific one
>> (simply because the bar would look like: | tu.. | tu.. | tu.. |
>> tu.. | tu.. | ...).

>> Stacks of tagbars scale much better than tabs and they don't need an
>> additional navigation layer. The space which is wasted for stacking
>> is pretty minimal, though it consumes somewhat more space than
>> tabbing. All in all stacking sucks less than tabbing if you can
>> create new pages dynamically, which provide arbitrary space if the
>> space gets unhandy in a column.

> You could improve it by hiding those stacks by default, only showing
> the current window title and a hint that there are stacked windows. It
> should then be easy to show those stacked window titles whenever the
> user cycles through the windows in that column.

I tried to make 2.5.2 do something like this, so I could get rid of the
top bar (since the bottom bar already shows the current thing) I was
trying to script the clientupdate action to also note the number of tabs
in the current frame. These days I only use tabs when I need to be able
to cycle between two or three programs left-handed (because I'm cutting
and pasting with the mouse, writing, or eating...) and don't want to
cycle through my entire window list each time... Happens maybe once a
week if I'm unlucky.

The problem with hiding the stacks is that as you cycle around, either
the window has to switch to an outline-only, or you're going to be
resizing your frames as a side-effect of cycling through them.

Of course, if the stack of titlebars unfurled over the top of the
current column when you started cycling, you'd still see the bottom of
the window, which is presumably the most important (?), and the windows
would still be as tall as the whole column, rather than
column-(title bar height*programs in stack)

Although I think that last suggestion makes them prettier tabs...

Either way, I'm looking forward to giving it a burl, once I have two
minutes to rub together. ^_^

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