Re: [wmii] 9ubuntu?

From: Uriel <>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:53:15 +0100

So you found out windows and lunix suck. Now tell me something I didn't know.


P.S.: Glendix (in my world domination plans renamed to "Plan L") has
been in the planning stages for years, I certainly don't think that
ubuntu is a good starting point for it. I have been toying with LFS,
but seems to be more trouble than it is worth it, I want to look into
GRML some time, maybe we should consider Mathieu's sourcemage... I'm
open to suggestions, but in the end the problem is that the whole
linux+gnu+X environment is *HUGE* and hideously complex.

One of my plans was to have a 'pure p9p' (or as close as possible to
it) distribution, and then using Linux's private namespaces and so on,
have something similar to APE for all the lunix junk. Still it would
probably would be quite a bit of work to setup and worse to maintain.
The advantage might be that you could 'run' debian or whatever inside
that 'ape' like sub-environment so we would not have to maintain
packages and shit.

On 3/14/07, Anselm R. Garbe <> wrote:
> Hi there,
> during last week I evaluated Windows Vista during my freetime -
> I'm not surprised... The whole system is too slow for me and
> contains only few innovations I consider useful (well most of
> them are also part of OS X, though I'm not uptodate with OS X).
> To a long-year X/wmii/dwm user the most annoying part in Windows
> Vista is the inefficient cut'n'paste handling and the manual
> window organization (even the mouse-driven Snarfing of Plan 9 is
> faster than this braindamaged and inconsistent cut'n'paste
> handling of Windows).
> The trip with Windows Vista lead to a reinstallation of ubuntu
> on my notebook (because I had to re-partition my disk), but the
> ubuntu installation also was very disappointing, because of
> this retarded Gnome environment (XFCE, KDE and Gnome altogether
> are pretty similiar to the Vista Desktop)...
> With each ubuntu/debian installation I have to install dozens
> of packages to setup my system as I like it to be, this sucks.
> I can't even use a live cd to run my environment on any computer
> - the stuff by Michael Prokop called grml (
> contains too much stuff I don't regularly use - although it
> comes very near to what I'd like to have.
> I also notice that there is no real Linux distribution with the
> flavor 'designed for C hackers and 9 lovers' out of the box
> (grml closes the gap for sys admins). So I got the idea that I'd
> like to see a new ubuntu flavor called 9ubuntu for '9 lovers and
> C hacker ubuntu' which comes packed with dwm/wmii and all
> necessary tools for developing C code (*-dev, vim, gcc,
> make, plan9ports,...) instead of those clunky desktop
> environments.
> What do people think about this idea? Even if this might not
> be officially supported by the ubuntu community, I'd like to see
> something like this, because I need it. Is there anyone
> interested to initiate such a project?
> Regards,
> --
> Anselm R. Garbe >< >< GPG key: 0D73F361
Received on Wed Mar 14 2007 - 12:53:17 UTC

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