Re: [wmii] wmiirc snippet: tag comments

From: Aaron Grattafiori <>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT)

I have to chime in on this whole thing.

As to having numbers be the names of tags, or prefix the names of tags.. I
think this somewhat defeats the purpose and one of the "cooler" aspects of
wmii which is tagging. Its really only 1-2 more keys to switch from MOD-t
e for email or just MOD-2 for email. I normally don't have more than one
tag with the same starting letter. I do keep a couple terminals tagged
with 1 and 2 for a kinda miscellaneous stuff. I think wmii is plenty fast
using names as tags.

There is an argument for just using numbers when you only have 2-3 things
open. At work, I typically have 6-12 different tags.

Having two tags is usefull with something like firefox for example. I
normally have so many tabs open that some of them are for different
projects. I tag my firefox with www+ldap+code for example.

The beauty of all this is that wmii is flexible enough to handle different
styles, or in some cases.. add your own name/tagging style.



> I have to absolutely agree, the tag names are just labels, I don't
> really see the point to give them names unless your working style is
> extremely static/restricted, and even then, it is just matter of
> having your own conventions, the name is irrelevant.
> Best wishes
> uriel
> P.S.: I must say I'm not sure I see the value of being able to display
> more than one tag at the same time.
> On 9/17/07, Anselm R. Garbe <> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I just wanted to let you know how I use tagging in dwm.
>> By default, dwm comes with a fixed set of 9 numeric tags.
>> They are defined at compile time, because dwm
>> provides no way to create a new tag or to remove an unused tag
>> during runtime.
>> The amount of 9 distinct tags seems to provide a sufficient
>> number of distinct symbols you can remember. Usually there are
>> up to 6 unused tags. Only in very rare scenarios I ended up
>> with 7 tags in use, e.g. when heavily working in a multi-hosted
>> development environment.
>> When thinking about how to predefine tag names I'm
>> going to use, I regularly concluded that those names are
>> misleading, wrong or simply feel too unflexible. For instance,
>> when I choosed something like "net", "local", "work",
>> "misc", "www", "mail", "irc" as my tag set, I regularly
>> ended up with terminals editing a local file with the
>> tags "net" and "work", a terminal with editing a remote
>> file tagged with "local" or "www", etc.
>> So what I noticed is, that I use tagging in a more fluent way
>> with nearly no semantic meaning of the tag names on their own.
>> It won't matter for me if the tags would be a, b, c, d, e, f, g,
>> h, i instead of 1, 2, 3, - or just chess figures, skat
>> figures or even some small icons. I only need a certain number
>> of distinct keys to use tagging.
>> That way, I also don't need to retag a window when its semantic
>> context changes (e.g. when ssh'ing to a different box or just
>> editing a mail). Whenever I notice that I got too much windows
>> in my view, I additionally tag those windows I want to
>> concentrate on further with the next free tag and bring that in
>> view. So I can switch between two sets, the current context and
>> the context I want to concentrate on very easy - and without
>> misleading tag names which would enforce some special meaning.
>> Usually the last used tag is the set I concentrate on. The
>> previous ones are of a more global or misc scope.
>> Well that's not totally true, I got used to the exception that
>> my browser windows end up tagged with 3, maybe I will change
>> that someday, to have at least for browser windows a semantic
>> www tag - which is the only real non-terminal app I heavily use.
>> Besides this, dwm provides the ability to view more than a
>> single tag at a time, you can view all tags alltogether to bring
>> all existing windows into view. So this might be a reason for
>> the more fluent use of tags in dwm than in wmii, but this thesis
>> might be wrong.
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Anselm R. Garbe >< >< GPG key: 0D73F361
Received on Tue Sep 18 2007 - 19:10:54 UTC

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