Re: [Mail style feedback] ]Re: [dev] Simpler WiFi alternatives [w/ bonus oneliner]

From: <fossy_AT_dnmx.org>
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 13:10:44 -0400

OpenSMTPD?
Let me guess, it's included within OpenBSD? :P
Well.. I'll need like 3 things from it..
1st be minimal - which I bet OpenSMTPD is.
2nd be written in C - I hope it is.
3rd be anonymous-friendly.. like I suppose pledge and unveil.. so since we're
on OpenBSD, that's a check as well.

Sounds good, I'll check it out someday, thanks.

Nano? Ew! haha
Yeah, same here basic features but in Vim I really found a few stuff great
such
as highlighting (could be done with ANSI escape codes such as \033[31m), then
indenting and appending lines to the entire file easily, like doing a `sed
's/^/> ' FILE`.
There are other things, I just forgot about them, but one of them would
also be
highlighted search.. like FreeBSD can have in `less`.. too bad OpenBSD
doesn't
have colors in `less` :d


> OpenSMTPD, the only sanely configurable mailserver.
>
> I use nano and mousepad. They are extremely minimal and fantastic! I
need just some basic features in an editor like syntax highlighting,
block indent and it's reverse, ability to edit :P , and nothing more!
> Thanking you
> Sagar Acharya
> https://humaaraartha.in
>
>
>
> 1 Jul 2023, 01:20 by fossy_AT_dnmx.org:
>
> >> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 11:14:56AM -0400, fossy_AT_dnmx.org wrote:
> >> > > Hey, Fossy,
> >> > >
> >> > > please be mindful of how you style your e-mails, when there is a
quoted
> >> > > text, it is necessary to have an 'arrow' [>] at the start of each
line,
> >> > > otherwise it is not considered a quoted text. For example, this
part:
> >> > >
> >> > > > > I don't think anyone is shocked by your messages. They just come
> >>
> > off as
> >
> >> > > > crass. Imagine going to a conference in real life and one of the
> >> > > > speakers goes on a 10 min rant filled with swearing and irrelevant
> >> > > > material halfway through his talk. Some people might be offended.
> >>
> > Most
> >
> >> > > > would be thinking "why am I wasting my time on this idiot?".
> >> > >
> >> > > means that only the first line is from the e-mail you have responded
> >>
> > to,
> >
> >> > > the other four are from your very own keyboard (quoted in this case
> >> > > because I am responding to that text).
> >> > >
> >> > > It's not a super huge deal, but it can mess up for example my
> >>
> > highliting
> >
> >> > > in neomutt and could confuse some threading in different mailing
> >>
> > clients.
> >
> >> > >
> >> > > To see the messed up highlight, see attached image.
> >> > >
> >> > > Have a good one.
> >> > > --
> >> > > # Marcel Plch
> >> > >
> >> > > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail
> >> > > /\ - against proprietary attachments
> >> > >
> >> > > ## What is that .asc attachment on my e-mails?
> >> > >
> >> > > * https://gnupg.org/
> >> > >
> >> > > ## Contact:
> >> > >
> >> > > * Website: https://plch.xyz
> >> > > * Gitea: https://gitea.plch.xyz/dormouse
> >> > > * Matrix: _AT_dormouse:matrix.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi!
> >> >
> >> > Alright..
> >> > I did know it looked weird, but I thought it was fine because I use a
> >>
> > dodgy
> >
> >> > "dark-net" e-mail provider anyways, so the lining looked weird..
> >> >
> >> > So how I do it is download the file (don't bother copy-pasting,
new-line
> >> > doesn't get included so everything just gets joined in one line), and
> >>
> > then
> >
> >> > do a
> >> > pipe to `sed 's/^/> /'`.
> >> > I format my lines to 79c if it matters.
> >> >
> >> > But I think everything breaks on the e-mail client in the browser...
> >>
> > after
> >
> >> > all,
> >> > I don't support ShitScripts in browsers, not have it enabled.
> >> >
> >> > I'll play a bit with e-mail web-site settings and see if that helps.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for pointing it out, I do care how I look (starting from
yesterday
> >> > :P).
> >> >
> >> > EDIT: Ah, I know what happens.. I need to somehow get sed to split
lines
> >> > into multiple ones before appending the '> '.. because the e-mail
client
> >> > also splits them above 76 or something like that.. cool client, but
fucks
> >> > up shit like this.
> >> >
> >> > Any command or rather utility to do that? I'm looking at either sed
with
> >> > brackets somehow, or probably something like `split`, `tr`? :/
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Just get a better e-mail provider. dnmx is cool when you need top-notch
> >> anonymity, but this is just a regular dev forum.
> >>
> >
> > I deny non-top-notch anonymity not only because I consider it
> > immoral/unfair to
> > myself, but also because my life depends on it.
> > I've said/made/shared things with solid logic/linked evidence that puts
> > governments and/or corporations in ugliest/darkest/evilest of lights,
if that
> > makes sense.. as well as done a few fun things such as denying the law
> > manipulation over my life :).
> >
> >
> >> I host my own and stuff works fine. (Dovecot, fetchmail, neomutt)
> >>
> >
> > I am considering running my own suckless e-mail server, but only and only
> > after
> > I make my computers go trough a router/firewall rules to be 100% sure
> > there are
> > no clear-net leaks possible :-).
> >
> > I heard that e-mail software is usually ultra-complex?
> > How hard can it be?
> > suckless.org has 'Mail clients', but I see no 'Mail servers'. What is
> > recommended?
> >
> >
> >> Vim has a nice feature for formatting text, you just visually select
block
> >> of text, press Gq and all text is <80c per line. Neomutt even passes
some
> >> argument to vim so that it trims lines automatically.
> >>
> >
> > Vim is also bloated as hell at over 700000 SLOC (including comments and
> > everything, wc -l).. I'd rather just use pre-installed `vi`..
> > I did use Vim in the past. I do miss it, that's why I started my own text
> > editor that will be (I hope) as minimalistic as Vi, but as functional
as Vim.
> > I seen there's vim-tiny or something? But I don't trust it to be
suckless.
> >
> >
> >> It's fairly easy to get really frustrated without even realizing it if
> >> things just don't work and you keep to work around them all the time.
> >>
> >
> > Pretty much my life :) (there eye problem I have for >1year).
> > I miss programming and feeling like a god creating my little, meaningful
> > universe.
> >
> >
> >> * Website: https://plch.xyz
> >>
> >
> > Damn, you look chill. Share that calmness immediately!
> > I love people having their own web-sites, especially when they self-host,
> > especiallyx2 if it's over a holy-net(such as I2P)
> >
>
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